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Unread 12-23-2010, 10:43 AM  
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Deleted bars

So I have TonicBars set up on 3 of my toons (all 65). When I updated w/ the last version, I backed up my data file for this plugin before updating, my rk and my lm are fine but mu hunter's bars are all gone ... seems the upgrade process is still a little quirky. What gives here? I really don't want to have to go back and re-create bars on every upgrade, that will get rather old rather fast.
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Unread 12-21-2010, 09:25 PM  
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I'll try it in 2 weeks (not at home). Thanks for the fast answer
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Unread 12-20-2010, 10:43 PM  
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I'm playin with french, and the bug is maybe because in the mod option, the buff is called "D?faite ennemie" instead of "Défaite ennemie
Give this a try: http://lotro.curseforge.com/addons/t.../files/79-r92/
Let me know. It's v2.2.2 with some fixes for French Translations. Thanks for the support by the way!

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I normally like to read the comments people are putting up as they tend to give me ideas about ways to use your marvelous plugin!
I try to keep the design open so that people can use this the way they want. The only hampering I'm going to do is supply default bars for people, so they don't have to set Everything up themselves. Anyway... Thanks for the Support!!

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Unread 12-20-2010, 09:46 PM  
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" If everyone used CurseForge I could roll out releases as Alpha / Beta / Release, but not everyone goes there to down load this and LOTRO Interface doesn't support that concept easily."

That's where I went to get the last two updates I normally check here first (thinking this was the main development page) but will check there from now on as well. I normally like to read the comments people are putting up as they tend to give me ideas about ways to use your marvelous plugin!
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Unread 12-20-2010, 08:55 PM  
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I have an issue with a bar that doesnt appear when i have the buff that appears after killing an ennemy (the bar is supposed to appear when i have the buff)

I'm playin with french, and the bug is maybe because in the mod option, the buff is called "D?faite ennemie" instead of "Défaite ennemie

Great mod btw

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Unread 12-20-2010, 04:18 PM  
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First and Foremost, BACK-UP your file before upgrading. Always do this. The Settings file is located in: /the lord of the rings online/plugindata/<username>/<server>/AllCharacters/tonicsettings.plugindata" Copy that somewhere safe.

There shouldn't be issues with that, but Just to be safe. I haven't heard of any issues, I Try my best to make sure that doesn't happen, but I'm only human and I don't have a good way of having this tested before it's officially released. If everyone used CurseForge I could roll out releases as Alpha / Beta / Release, but not everyone goes there to down load this and LOTRO Interface doesn't support that concept easily.

I always test from the previous version before posting. That doesn't mean that there are not issues, but I can't test all permutations of every release. The other thing is that as versions are progressed, I simplify code for one of many reasons and for example, upgrades prior to v1.0 are no longer supported.

So, I don't have a better answer than, back-it-up and try it... :P sorry. I hope to improve this going forward, with an automated backup system. Its rather easy to do, it just takes time to make sure it works.
No worries, thanks for the prompt reply. I just wanted to make sure is all. Backing up is a normal thing for me anyway (I actually archive my plugins/skins dir by date before every update and I only do one at a time anyway. Just to prevent any issues. Better safe then sorry.

I wish cursesforge was used as well. Much better system going on there, besides, if enough people did use it, we would get app support, rolling out patches/updates would only get easier at that point.
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Unread 12-20-2010, 03:29 PM  
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Just out of curiosity, are there still issues w/ upgrading and bars getting deleted?
First and Foremost, BACK-UP your file before upgrading. Always do this. The Settings file is located in: /the lord of the rings online/plugindata/<username>/<server>/AllCharacters/tonicsettings.plugindata" Copy that somewhere safe.

There shouldn't be issues with that, but Just to be safe. I haven't heard of any issues, I Try my best to make sure that doesn't happen, but I'm only human and I don't have a good way of having this tested before it's officially released. If everyone used CurseForge I could roll out releases as Alpha / Beta / Release, but not everyone goes there to down load this and LOTRO Interface doesn't support that concept easily.

I always test from the previous version before posting. That doesn't mean that there are not issues, but I can't test all permutations of every release. The other thing is that as versions are progressed, I simplify code for one of many reasons and for example, upgrades prior to v1.0 are no longer supported.

So, I don't have a better answer than, back-it-up and try it... :P sorry. I hope to improve this going forward, with an automated backup system. Its rather easy to do, it just takes time to make sure it works.

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Unread 12-20-2010, 02:38 PM  
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Just out of curiosity, are there still issues w/ upgrading and bars getting deleted? The last few upgrades this was the case but the 'readme' and 'changelog' doesn't mention it so I just wanted to make sure before committing it to my plugins dir.

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Unread 12-20-2010, 09:55 AM  
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The class trigger for Battle-Hardened (Captain) doesn't seem to work. Can't get it to show correctly. The others seem to work correctly.
Please provide me with the Exact string of the Buff in game. I haven't played Captains, or Champs so I can't pull those strings myself.
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If you start to choose between class triggers, then the "buffs active/not active" seems to also affect the normal ones. After using a bar for a captain trigger first, I found that I needed to put it as buff active or it wouldn't toggle at a fear effect later on. Not such if it was like that before.
So, this was a design decision I made. When you choose "buffs active" it's going to OR everything you select. So, if Fear OR a class buff OR health OR power... etc. If you select "buffs not active" it's going to AND them together. So, Health has to be below AND Fear is active AND a class buff, etc. That means ALL TRIGGERS... I think this is working correctly, it's just a little confusing. I have ideas on how to improve this going forward.

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I sometimes get skills disappear from the bars. Can't say exactly when this happens, except when I am dragging another skill over (not dropping/replacing).
I haven't seen this one. Anything that you can find to reproduce this? All known cases have been addressed.

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It would be great if you could find some way to make the extension bars moveable. I sometimes want to restructure my bars, and to move an extension bar I have to delete it and recreate it at some other point. I hope there's a better way to do this.
This is difficult, I'll think about how to do this, maybe with drag and drops. I'll need to come up with a concept and then a proof of concept, because it's extremely tricky (or I would have done this previously).

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Anyway, it's a great mod with even more potential. After starting to use it a while back, I can't be without it now. Great work!
Thanks, a lot of time has been put into this.

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Unread 12-20-2010, 12:31 AM  
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Found some issues:
  • The class trigger for Battle-Hardened (Captain) doesn't seem to work. Can't get it to show correctly. The others seem to work correctly.
  • If you start to choose between class triggers, then the "buffs active/not active" seems to also affect the normal ones. After using a bar for a captain trigger first, I found that I needed to put it as buff active or it wouldn't toggle at a fear effect later on. Not such if it was like that before.
  • I sometimes get skills disappear from the bars. Can't say exactly when this happens, except when I am dragging another skill over (not dropping/replacing). It's not a biggie, but it's got me constantly checking my bars to make sure I've got everything there.

And finally, a request: It would be great if you could find some way to make the extension bars moveable. I sometimes want to restructure my bars, and to move an extension bar I have to delete it and recreate it at some other point. I hope there's a better way to do this.

Anyway, it's a great mod with even more potential. After starting to use it a while back, I can't be without it now. Great work!

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Unread 12-19-2010, 09:31 PM  
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•Fixed Fade issues with fading a bar.
Thank you for this. I thought you might have missed it and was very happy to see it fixed. You're the best.

Oh, and 5 starts of course
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Unread 12-19-2010, 02:45 PM  
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Am I missing something?
Nope, sorry about that... I really shouldn't start to fix something, walk away from it for two weeks and come back and make a version...
I figured I had finished it and I hadn't. Sorry bout that... v2.2.2 should fix that issue.

The good news... a lot of things personally have gotten better, hence the new versions. Wifes healing up well after her accident, my twins don't have pnemonia anymore... have a new Van after it was totaled... the insurance is covering the damage to the Van even though the other woman who hit my wife wasn't insured (as it was her fault 100%), I have running water in my house after the well pump died and the mailbox has been fixed after being hit by a plow... sigh... finally some normallcy.

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Unread 12-19-2010, 01:14 PM  
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Very nice plugin.
I'm new here (and to LOTRO) and running this plugin I get error:
Online\Plugins\Tonic\TonicBars\Bars\BarManager.lua :140: attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value)
When I select any predefined extension.
The rest seems to work fine.
Am I missing something?
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Unread 12-19-2010, 07:59 AM  
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It all works for now with version 2.1 just not the way intended. Maybe I am just overlooking something easy... it is late
Nope, it's a problem. I've got a fix. Will make a build and upload when I can. Thanks for reporting this.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 01:28 AM  
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I just downloaded v2.2 and got it loaded ingame. I can make new quickslots but the extension function was not working at all. Right clicking any of my existing quickslots didn't open up a extension menu. When I tried to extend a quickslot made by Tonicbars I would always get the message "can not extend an extension".

I rolled back to version 2.1 and still could not get it to open up an extension on any existing quickslot. I did get it to work when creating a new quickslot bar with Tonicbars then extending that.

It all works for now with version 2.1 just not the way intended. Maybe I am just overlooking something easy... it is late
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