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Unread 11-08-2015, 07:55 PM  
Stever1388
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Minas Tirith Epic Battles

I have started working on what I need to get the Minas Tirith epic battles into the plugin, however they aren't quite as clean as the Helm's Deep ones are, mostly due to a lack of standard global chat that signals the start and end of certain waves. Also the side quests are a bit of a mess since some are epic foes and some are not (and I think a few waves can be either), though each wave only ever has one quest with it.

My goal is to get it to work as well as possible, and show the timers for epic foes in a similar fashion to the way the Pelargir ones work. This may take some time as there seems to be a few bugs and timing issues still present in the epic battles, and I don't want to spend too much time getting data just to have Turbine change it on me in a month.
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Unread 10-18-2015, 02:54 PM  
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Bunny had a nice feature in his version that sent the side quest to chat of your choice. Would sure like to see that in this.
Was this automatic? I never really used his version, as a lot of those features were out of the scope of what my original intention for the plugin to be.
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Unread 10-18-2015, 11:33 AM  
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Nice to see the update hope it fixed all the error spam especially the line 1124 I was getting yesterday.

Bunny had a nice feature in his version that sent the side quest to chat of your choice. Would sure like to see that in this.
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Unread 10-17-2015, 03:38 PM  
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Hey, it is nice to see, you updated the original version! COOOL!
I do not plan to continue my "side-version". That is already know pelargir duo and fellow since them arrived, but I am sick about the undocumented, and always changing Turbine source. So I do not public the last versions just for a few friend. It is not perfect and I do not want to repair every time when the Turbine change they mind.

I wish you more patient that I have

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Unread 10-15-2015, 08:31 AM  
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Re: Re: Issue with storing settings

Hi
Thanks for your really fast answer!

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I'm pretty sure I know what is causing this, and I have fixed it in the latest build, which I will upload once I test Pelargir 6 man a bit more. Look for it towards the end of the week.
Sounds nice

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Unfortunately if you are not using an English client, the Pelargir quests won't be recognized because I do not have non-English translations for all the things that happen in Pelargir. If you'd be interested in getting those translations for me, please send me a private message and I will explain how to do it.
That's it, i'm using the german client.
I'll send you a private message immidiately, so we'll try to translate it in german. I'm thinking, i know a little bit of what is needed, cause i looked in the code of the plugin in the past (to see, if i can do the Pelargir-Extension for me, but stopped it, as i recognized, i have not enough code experience ;p)

Thanks

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Unread 10-14-2015, 05:45 PM  
Stever1388
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Re: Issue with storing settings

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There is an error when change the settings of the plugin (Position, Scale, Maximize ans so on):
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...e\Plugins\SDRPlugins\EpicBattlePlugin\MainWindow.lua:86: attempt to index field 'loadDWRAToggle' (a nil value)
After a relog or change to another char, i have to newly do the settings.
I'm pretty sure I know what is causing this, and I have fixed it in the latest build, which I will upload once I test Pelargir 6 man a bit more. Look for it towards the end of the week.

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The Plugin works as before in the Battles of Helms Deep, in Pelargir Solo/Duo it doesn't recognize the quests
Unfortunately if you are not using an English client, the Pelargir quests won't be recognized because I do not have non-English translations for all the things that happen in Pelargir. If you'd be interested in getting those translations for me, please send me a private message and I will explain how to do it.

If you are using an English client, there are some problems with Pelargir in general that may cause it to not work correctly, which unfortunately are not really possible to get around due to the way the instance is set up and the way the plugin has to listen for when things are happening. Once I get Pel 6 man ready I will be posting a more informative guide on what to expect.
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Unread 10-14-2015, 05:29 AM  
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Issue with storing settings

Hello
Thank you for the work with developing the EPB

I'm not an english native speaker, so I hope, i'll describe my issue as you can understand it:
There is an error when change the settings of the plugin (Position, Scale, Maximize ans so on):
Code:
...e\Plugins\SDRPlugins\EpicBattlePlugin\MainWindow.lua:86: attempt to index field 'loadDWRAToggle' (a nil value)
After a relog or change to another char, i have to newly do the settings.

For the rest:
The Plugin works as before in the Battles of Helms Deep, in Pelargir Solo/Duo it doesn't recognize the quests

Thanks for you attention
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Unread 10-13-2015, 09:45 PM  
Stever1388
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Re: Issues w/group Pela

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It didn't bring up info during a group run, not even the time of the winch stage, then, sorry, I didn't retain what the error message was, but error spam galore. I was able to get it to stop not by having to unload, but right-click and move to a later phase.

Oh! "delay" might have not been set per the error?

PS: In the solo version, the main quest foe came up a few seconds before the plugin expected, after dispatching the half-troll side quest.
Yeah I realized after I uploaded that the Pel 6 man was broken. I'm working on doing some testing this week to get everything in line.

Unfortunately, overall for both the solo and fellowship Pelargir, is that the plugin is never going to be as reliable as it is in other instances. This is because Pelargir has two big issues with it: the first being that the "callouts" that I have to listen for in chat are not global - if you aren't close enough to the person calling it out, you miss it, which means the wave won't start correctly (you can right click the wave numbers and start it manually however). The second is that the phase lengths vary by a large amount (+/- 100 seconds). This makes it very hard to calculate when the side quests will start and when the phase will end. I'm most likely going to just put the lowest times in that I have found, and if you get extra time, then that's great. I'm also reworking the UI a bit, I think my plan is the quest timer to say what it's counting down to, while the active quest/epic foe will be highlighted green so you kind of know what's going on.

I think overall, the main benefit of having Pelargir included is that you can see your trap durations and also so you can know how long you have until you lose platinum. Since the quests are always random anyway, "knowing" which quests are possible really isn't a benefit, and knowing when the quests may start isn't exactly a huge benefit either (especially in Pelargir, which has less setup time or run time than Helm's Dike 6 man for example). I will continue to refine stuff as possible, perhaps even adding some checks during the wave to adjust times if that's possible.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Unread 10-13-2015, 12:53 PM  
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Issues w/group Pela

It didn't bring up info during a group run, not even the time of the winch stage, then, sorry, I didn't retain what the error message was, but error spam galore. I was able to get it to stop not by having to unload, but right-click and move to a later phase.

Oh! "delay" might have not been set per the error?

PS: In the solo version, the main quest foe came up a few seconds before the plugin expected, after dispatching the half-troll side quest.
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Unread 10-10-2015, 09:06 PM  
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Pelargir is now supported!

I am proud to announce that I have (finally) added support for Retaking Pelargir. This is an initial release which has been semi tested, and the fellowship version is still wonky with the numbers it shows. Over the next week I will be testing and refining everything a bit more.

The main addition is that for each epic foe during each phase, the plugin will show how many seconds you have left to kill the epic foe before you lose platinum on that epic foe. However, many of the timers are not correct, and once they are, the actual time you have left may be slightly different (probably +/- 2 seconds or so).

Note: Pelargir is not supported in German clients, don't have the translations.

Enjoy!

P.S. I plan to add the new Minas Tirith epic battles once they are released. Hopefully they won't take too much time to add as long as they follow the same format that the Helm's Deep epic battles followed, since then all I have to do is update the data backend that the plugin reads to check what's going on.
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Unread 03-20-2015, 02:13 PM  
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Update

Apologies for the silence, I have been busy with work and have not had a chance to test changes to the plugin to work with the new epic battle. I have some ideas floating around for it and some stuff in the works, but unfortunately it's not yet ready to be released and I don't have much time to work on it.
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Unread 03-17-2015, 12:08 PM  
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Update Please

are you planning on updating this to reflect the new BB content?
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Unread 03-02-2015, 08:26 AM  
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When the new version will be released ?
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Unread 02-25-2015, 07:14 AM  
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When you start working on the update for Pelargir I can provide you some chatlogs with all the phrases needed for german translation. Or you can send me the english phrases and I'll translate them for you.
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Unread 02-01-2015, 01:21 PM  
Stever1388
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A request - why is the dropdown list to open options on right click even there? It has one element "Options" - so basically right clicking could just open the options window directly?
I actually have a secondary plugin that I use called Deeping Wall Raid Assistant that works with the EBP to help organize the raid into the needed groups for each side quest, and the right click allows me to open and load that plugin. I have not gotten around to releasing it because it's still in alpha stages. It works, but it's not easy or intuitive to use, and is missing some features that would make it more useful.

In the end it's more of a convention, you right click and select what you want to do. If you right click the title bar, it allows you to manually start an epic battle. If you right click the wave sections, it allows you to manually start/end a wave. All the drop down menus always include the Show Options, but if you right click anywhere that doesn't have any other options, then that's the only one it shows.
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