Adder

I just downloaded LotROnion and am looking forward to trying it out (kinda late here though and I gotta get some sleep), but after looking over the description, I was wondering if it would be possible to have this work for LOTRO Skins too? I'm not sure how WOW classifies them or if your original app has this capability, but here in LOTRO, the skins and plugins are separate 'addons' and are kept in different folders within the game's main folder in Documents.

Being able to keep a skin updated with LotROnion along with the plugins would be absolutely awesome, especially for altoholics like myself who currently has 10 characters on my main server ( a total of 24 on 5 servers) and use 5 different skins among those characters on the main (not to mention the plethora of plugins).

Slacky

As long as skin installation does not require any additional actions (edit this file, mvoe that file to here, replace the original XX with YY) it can be done.

There's already been a request for this and I'm working on it right now.

Adder

Fantastic! Looking forward to it.

EDIT: Oops! Still half asleep. Just noticed that it's already in there! Thx!

Slacky

Another update is live.

0.1.6
Changelog:
-Added ContextMenu entry on skins to keep the SkinDefinition.xml file(s)

It is now possible with the context menu to tell LotROnion to keep a SkinDefinition.xml file when updating a skin. This should not be done if the skin has new mandatory settings.

Slacky

On we go with the updating.. Keep in mind that this update marathon will subside at some point so just bare with it for now..

0.1.7
Changelog:
-Only overwrite data of a plugin when there are more than 1 in 1 directory

Some authors put all their plugins into 1 directory. If you have multiple plugins with this situation, LotROnion cannot just delete your old installation directory. This would kill all the other plugins of that author. Now we just overwrite the files in the directory with the files of the new version of the plugin.
Stay tuned..

Slacky

Good morning:

0.2.0

This version was buggy and therefore removed from line of updates. Please check version 0.2.1 for features

Emberleaf

Newest version won't install in Minion. Says it's not a vaild MMO Minion file.

Adder

I noticed that the current download file shows as version 0.1.7 instead of 0.2.0. Oversight or is there something amiss with the download?

I haven't tried to install it yet due to Emberleaf's comment. I'll wait to see what's up here.

Slacky

Upload was messed up. I''l talk to the mods to fix it. Another way of updating the plugin is by using Minion's build-in update feature.

Slacky

New version. It is be possible again to load it into the Minion. It no longer depends on having the wowinterface.com plugin installed with the minion.

Changelog:
-Added support for RAR files
-Reduced size to 50% (Removed dependency to Xerces library)

RAR files will now be handled. There is no more message as long as the installation goes without problems. In addition the LotROnion is much smaller now for those of us with a small bandwidth connection (e.g. me..)

magill

Ah Ha!! a badly needed solution!!! and so to try it out.

I just downloaded MMoui Minion 2.0 ...

Installation of Minion is a bit "painful" for non WOW players.

!- When I launch it (the java applet) It goes nuts forcing me to identify a WOW
application directory. (nuts = can't cancel it "normally" have to Force Quit the app)
(Is that a bug in Minion, or is it "working as intended" -- i.e. everybody has a wow directory )

OK so I give it the LOTRO Plugins Directory. ... I guess it "worked" -- that window went away.

2- Tried tools -- no install button -- only an update button (funny, I only downloaded it moments before) -- ok that worked

Now I have an Install button.

3- But I get an empty window --- aha there is another button --- "LOTRO UPdater" [Need to add that to your instructions]

And once again (third time) I try pointing at the LOTRO/Plugins directory... sigh, it finally "stuck."

Lo and behold: Travel Window by Dhor and MooreMap by Garan appear!

I guess both versions are current, so I can't try updating them.

So what next?

1- Does one run this every random time to check for updates?
2- Do updates happen automatically once Minion is launched?
3- Do you have to do anything to "force" it to update?

Random comments: Running on OSX under CrossOver Games (WINE) - Java works fine not clear if certain things (like the nuts above)
which the applet does is a bug or what... guess I'll have to go sign up on their bug-tracker...

I'll have to figure out how to delete this whole thing (and see what (if anything) it saves and where, and try again to better document the foibles.

Suggestions:
1- Install instructions for Minion since it behaves differently with no WOW directory. I'm assuming that the probability of getting that modified is pretty low.)
2- update your instructions to include reference to the possibility that "tools" may first force you to "update" Minion itself before the "install" button is available
3- update your instructions to include reference to "LOTRO Updater" button.
4- Update your instructions to eliminate "no plugins" reference and include list of "identified" plugins (see posting #13)

Again, thanks for Lotronion -- keep up the good work!

magill

I've been "working" LPC/LotROnion and various plugins while writing up Lua Plugins for Lotro-wiki.com

Today I when I first launched V9.2.1, I immediately noticed that TonicBars was showing an "update" available and and "update" button. ... except that the update was for the current version (which LPC had just previously downloaded and installed, so it has the appropriate .plugincompendium file.)

Concurrently I noticed that the two Turbine "default" files were showing up in red "internal error."

So I used the pulldown - refresh. It went cranking for a bit.. numerous "waiting for something messages (I didn't write them down), a number of more "internal errors" and then boom...

2/7/12 5:06:42.390 PM JavaApplicationStub: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space

2/7/12 5:06:42.467 PM JavaApplicationStub: (
0 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff90812fc6 __exceptionPreprocess + 198
1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007fff93d5ad5e objc_exception_throw + 43
2 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff9089d2a9 -[NSException raise] + 9
3 JavaNativeFoundation 0x000000010049dc47 JNFCallStaticVoidMethod + 213
4 libawt.jnilib 0x000000010f931ab6 +[EventFactory cursorUpdateFor:] + 127
5 libawt.jnilib 0x000000010f931806 +[CWindow mouseUpdateNotification:] + 2342
6 AppKit 0x00007fff8bea7b44 -[NSWindow sendEvent:] + 7430
7 libawt.jnilib 0x000000010f927437 -[CocoaAppWindow sendEvent:] + 185
8 AppKit 0x00007fff8be3fe83 -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 4847
9 AppKit 0x00007fff8bdd61f2 -[NSApplication run] + 555
10 libawt.jnilib 0x000000010f902600 +[AWTStarter startAWT:] + 1495
11 libawt.jnilib 0x000000010f901f7a -[CPerformer perform] + 93
12 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff9080275d -[NSObject performSelector:withObject:] + 61
13 Foundation 0x00007fff8ca9bd94 __NSThreadPerformPerform + 214
14 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff907816e1 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_SOURCE0_PERFORM_FU NCTION__ + 17
15 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff90780f4d __CFRunLoopDoSources0 + 253
16 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff907a7d39 __CFRunLoopRun + 905
17 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff907a7676 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 230
18 JavaApplicationLauncher 0x0000000100005464 _Z11startupJavaP18LauncherArgsStruct + 236
19 JavaApplicationLauncher 0x0000000100007ec1 launchJavaApplicationWithJVMInfo + 1341
20 JavaApplicationStub 0x0000000100000b9c JavaApplicationStub + 2972
)

NOw the plugin won't reload...


2/7/12 5:19:11.911 PM [0x0-0x105105].com.apple.JarLauncher: Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from
2/7/12 5:19:11.911 PM [0x0-0x105105].com.apple.JarLauncher: /Users/magill/Documents/The Lord of the Rings Online/Minion/LotROnion-0.2.1.jar


time to re-download, unzip and try again

Slacky

Hi magil

thanks for your enhanced testing and reporting. About the WOW thingy:

The installation applet i know from wowinterface.com provides the OPTION to install the wowinterface plugin. IF you do so, the annoying directory selection box comes up in an infinity loop. I take neither blame nor credit for this, this is the work of the guys at wowinterface.com
In short: uncheck wowinterface plugin at installation time and you have no problems with a WOW-directory-selection-popup

About the empty screen and the usage after installation, I will add some info to the HOW-TO to explain these cases, thanks for the hints!

Concerning the LPC/LotrOnion update problem, I can only guess that LPC updated the plugin using knowledge from its internal plugin-state-database. LotrOnion does not know anything about a plugin if it doesnt supply the info by itself. (plugincompendium file) Also, did you restart the Minion after updating the plugins with LPC? LotrOnion does NOT do update checks during runtime, only at startup.
This is the basic idea: start the tool, check for updates, install updates, close tool, done.

Forcing an update eh? No bad idea... I will include it soon!

Is this an error from LPC or Minion? Me confused, me scratch head! If it was the Minion, please try to reproduce and note more errors. Errors are the coder's best friends (when bugfixing....)

Adder

A few months ago I remember reading that LotROnion would support updating Skins as well as Plugins. I still haven't seen this happen. Any news or updates on when this is going to happen or has the idea been scrapped?

Hyoss

I would also love if LotROnion would support updating of skins.